Talk:Yakovlev Yak-11

A couple factual questions

The article as it stands now still has some gaps and vague statements; I'd like to fill in the info, but cannot come up with any reliable facts at the moment. Does anyone know more than me?

• Production of the LET C11 started in 1953 (sometimes given as 1952), but how long was the plane produced?
• VVS retired the YAK-11 in 1962, but what about other Warsaw Pact air forces?
• Which countries' air forces outside of the Warsaw Pact used the Yak-11? I'm certain about Egypt, but it has probably seen more widespread use...

-- Ferkelparade π 14:23, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• I've found on some web page (but I lost it), that C-11 were produced until 1956, like Yak-11. ..wait, I got it: [1]
• countries: Albania, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Algier, Iraq, Yemen, Guinea (which one?), Syria
• I'm afraid we won't know, when each Warsaw Pact force withdrew them
• there are more problems: most sources and web pages (like Russian [2]) say, that it was first flown in 1946 (but exactly when?). Where is the date 10 November 1945?.. BTW, this good-looking Russian page say, that Yak-11 prototype was first named Yak-U.
• was Yak-11U produced serially? The Russian pages say no word about its production, but the page [3] says, that "only a small series was produced in Czechoslovakia as C-11U" which would mean, that USSR didn't produce it. There are also some differencies with the date -1951? 58?..
• finally, I think there's no use in creating separate links Yak-11U and C-11U - will they ever be separate article? BTW, IMO C-11 should be redirect to Yak-11, because both aircraft were treated as one. Pibwl 18:52, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• one more country: Yak-11 were used in North Korea as ..night fighters. Pibwl 19:00, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• The info on the first flight of the prototype comes from here: [4] (German-language site about the NVA Yak, sounds credible since the info comes from Berlin's air force museum). Another museum site here:[5] gives October 1945 for the first flight. However, Warbird Alley says the Yak-3U (the 11's prededcessor) first flew in 1945 and the first 11 in 1946, so there seems to be some confusion on the exact date. In any case, the first production Yak-11 flew in 1946, so maybe we should just leave out the uncertain date of the prototype flight...
  • or we should indicate - as for now - that the sources give different data.. Pibwl
• I agree about the links to the U variant...you're probably right that they don't warrant their own article. I also couldn't find out if they were ever produced serially, the clearest reference i could find is at the end of the Warbirds Alley article referenced above.
• One more thing: do you know how the Austrian Air Force ended up buying Russian planes? Austria had a special status in post-war Europe, but it still had rather close ties to the West and did not normally cooperate as closely with the Soviet Union as, for example, Finland did at the time. Just being curious, that's probably too detailed to go into the article anyway...

-- Ferkelparade π 08:28, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• • I don't know, but it seems Austria tried to show that they stood between two blocks without engaging, so they could buy Soviet trainers (Yak-18 as well) and Swedish Drakens. Pibwl 19:35, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Battle story

I took out a Korean battle story where US F-82s make a kill. I like the colorful story but it is more appropriate to book of battle tales than an article about the plane. Also, this article is too short to be able to absorb a story like that without it taking over the text. Binksternet (talk) 18:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

And again, I just took out the story after a reversion. What would be appropriate here is to state how many Yak-11s were involved in the Korean conflict and how they fared vs other aircraft. Not an unsourced battle yarn about one particular dogfight. Binksternet (talk) 08:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Exceptionally historic combat encounters are relevant to aircraft articles, and are frequently cited (see F-82 and P-61). These encounters are not cited simply to serve as examples of "typical" combat encounters, but rather they are so significant that they form an essential part of the aircraft's history. A good example is the P-61's downing of the last enemy aircraft in WWII, or the B-32's dogfight that saw the last American causality of WWII. In this case a Yak-11 was the first aircraft shot down in the Korean War. This is made more unusual since the aircraft is essentially a trainer. There are no other recorded cases of American fighters engaging in a dogfight with a Yak-11 during the conflict, and the type was likely returned to training duty following this one incident. - Ken keisel (talk) 20:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Yak-11 vs T-6

To be honest, I don't see any reason to compare the Yak-11 with the T-6, as the development and manufacture op the T-6 precedes that of the Yak-11 with almost a decade (so it is quit logical the production of the T-6 is far higher, as it actually was produced during WWII!). But this kind of background is not given here. And why not compare it to the T-28, the T-34 or even the Fokker S-11, as those are more of the same era ? --Antheii (talk) 21:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Main image

Is a photo of an incredibly modified airframe really suitable for the main image of this piece? It's certainly not representative of the aircraft in general. 213.123.216.139 (talk) 09:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I second this, checking a clip on YT, saw an aircraft... thought it was a YAK, I opened the "List of Yakovlev aircraft", moused over each type, saw that modified... unit, not that, continued and couldn't find the model. I then proceeded to do the same for Tupolev and Polikarpov... wasting my time... I gave up! At the end of the clip, it said Yak-11... WHAT? Come back here and figured that this page was using, as a main pic, something that has nothing to do with a real Yak-11. So to the maintainer, please switch that mutant for a pic of a real Yak-11... for educational... historical purposes. Thank You. Netweezurd (talk) 10:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)