Talk:Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem

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Recency

Much of the data used here is outdated, particularly in the section about grizzly bears.Wildernest42 (talk) 22:23, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Restructuring

I think Longleaf pine ecosystem serves as a good model for how this article should be structured. This seems to be almost entirely about conservation and very little about what the ecosystem is actually like now. I will try to write a "Animal and plant diversity" section, an ecology section (which is sorely missing) and then change the "management by species" section into a decline/conservation/management/concerns today section. FergusArgyll (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look forward to your work on the Management by species section. I think the History and Protected areas are in pretty good shape. Cheers, 〜 Adflatuss • talk 19:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, agree on History and Protected areas.

I noticed you've done a lot for this page, so I would appreciate if you can help keep me balanced (not do too much etc.)

I started the animal and plant diversity section, meanwhile did large mammals, let me know what you think of it... FergusArgyll (talk) 22:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok 〜 Adflatuss • talk 22:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess as I'm writing this I'm trying to figure out; how different is this / should it be from the article on the natl. park?

any clearly delineated lines you can think of? FergusArgyll (talk) 22:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The national Park is well covered so if it feels like it is just rehashing the same stuff than it is probably unnecessary here. Unlike the national park centered on tourism and preservation, people live, ranch, hunt, and host visitors in the GYE outside the park. That makes this a very different environment such as the awareness of wolves and bison of hunters. The park is still in the center but the interaction, tension, and impact within this larger area is the main topic of this article. Regards, 〜 Adflatuss • talk 03:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting, in the natl park article under "biology and ecology" section it says Main articles: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and Ecology of the Rocky Mountains. so maybe this should be the place to talk about those.

In the Ecosystem page this sticks out to me: "An ecosystem (or ecological system) consists of all the organisms and the abiotic pools (or physical environment) with which they interact. The biotic and abiotic components are linked together through nutrient cycles and energy flows."

Maybe we should highlight the interactions between the various animals plants and geological phenomena. like this https://doi.org/10.2307%2F3872937 , https://doi.org/10.1890%2F1051-0761%282001%29011%5B0947%3AAMPPIG%5D2.0.CO%3B2 and https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/influence-of-geology.htm#:~:text=geology%20also%20influences FergusArgyll (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

some thing like this: (I need to rework it and make it coherent, add sources etc. but the general idea)

The underlying geology has a profound impact on soil composition, water availability, and nutrient distribution, which in turn influence vegetation patterns and wildlife habitat. For instance, the volcanic rhyolites and tuffs found in the Yellowstone Caldera create nutrient-poor soils^[1], supporting pine forests adapted to these conditions.^[2] In contrast, the andesitic rocks of the Absaroka Mountains weather into soils richer in nutrients, fostering diverse plant communities.^[1]

The distribution of prey species is often linked to the availability of specific plant communities,^[3] which are influenced by soil type, elevation, and slope. FergusArgyll (talk) 11:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Anderson, Ryan (2022–2023). Dynamic Earth Through the Lens of Yellowstone.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)
^ Pierce, Kenneth; Despain, Don; Morgan, Lisa; Good, John (2007-01-01). "The Yellowstone Hotspot, Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, and Human Geography". United States Geological Survey: Publications.
^ Ripple, William J.; Beschta, Robert L.; Painter, Luke E. (October 2015). "Trophic cascades from wolves to alders in Yellowstone". Forest Ecology and Management. 354: 254–260. doi:10.1016/j.foreco.2015.06.007. ISSN 0378-1127.

[:0-1] Anderson, Ryan (2022–2023). Dynamic Earth Through the Lens of Yellowstone.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)

[2] Pierce, Kenneth; Despain, Don; Morgan, Lisa; Good, John (2007-01-01). "The Yellowstone Hotspot, Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, and Human Geography". United States Geological Survey: Publications.

[3] Ripple, William J.; Beschta, Robert L.; Painter, Luke E. (October 2015). "Trophic cascades from wolves to alders in Yellowstone". Forest Ecology and Management. 354: 254–260. doi:10.1016/j.foreco.2015.06.007. ISSN 0378-1127.

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